tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4522018539311056682.post1749023096075320975..comments2024-03-27T01:28:28.346-07:00Comments on False Machine: The Real Forgotten Realmspjamesstuarthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13288777018721199748noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4522018539311056682.post-19538050798197106962017-04-30T05:46:12.592-07:002017-04-30T05:46:12.592-07:00I always thought the original idea behind the forg...I always thought the original idea behind the forgotten realms, a kind of Narnia like place but instead of woodland creatures you have this huge world of ancient empires and many different civilistions, was one of best in RPGs.<br /><br />The problem with it imo is that it became too 'ordered', with too many set rules and standardisations which meant it lost its fantastical quality, AND thye just went mad on the power creep.<br /><br />For example, it just got ridiculous that there was Elminster, the Black staff, the Seven Sisters, and all these uber powerful good wizards, as well as having 24th level liches ruling the red wizards.<br /><br />In fact, what you want in these fantastical settings is to keep the power level LOW. So maybe you have ONE uber powerful good mage (the Simbul?), but the Blackstaff and Eliminster are 9th level, the Manshoon maybe something like 12th, with only the big bad of the world at something like 15th-18th.<br /><br />That keeps magic as being something strange and special, and then allows you to have heroes and villains use ancient Magic items that nobody can make any more.<br /><br />You never want to magic to be so common place that it is like technology, unless you are in a steampunk kind of setting.<br /><br />Just my two cents.Fanfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14047931982239997873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4522018539311056682.post-89805251155463370322017-04-15T09:23:50.569-07:002017-04-15T09:23:50.569-07:00Yeah, you can leave me out of this one. ;>Yeah, you can leave me out of this one. ;>Frank Mentzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01175370701287858254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4522018539311056682.post-85246268227711174942017-04-11T01:25:48.371-07:002017-04-11T01:25:48.371-07:00Thanks guys but my reading list is currently three...Thanks guys but my reading list is currently three feet long and I don't spend nearly enough time actually reading to get through it.pjamesstuarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13288777018721199748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4522018539311056682.post-3038420797700396682017-04-11T01:14:38.058-07:002017-04-11T01:14:38.058-07:00Thats a gold post. (Btw, my Summer Realm was playi...Thats a gold post. (Btw, my Summer Realm was playing Mentzer D&D amd an italian game called Kata Kumbas and age of empires II and reading a library Worth of history books about lost civilizations, and in this post you pretty summarized all of that...).<br />The whole point of this is that Paradise can be dangerous. It can be grim and terrible. In a way, i feel like the Red and Pleasant Land is Zak's Paradise. This whale theme was worked out by Erwin Tucker Eddison inn his Zimiamvia novels.<br />Furthermore, about the concept of history. The first one to imagine historian as someone who set himself in front of ruins in order to make out Sense from them was Herder. With that stanco start the idea that history as data and history as narration are Polar opposite. Henceforward, history is no more a part of human work in this word, but (taking away the words of a poet) a dream within a dream (same for scienze but why bother).<br />Thu from Herder time on there was an opposite stream, wish in to let ruins be ruin... think about Piranesi... think about Howard! In this stream (and, but this is just my guess, ONLY in this stream) we can found a Sense of wonder which is not esca post (a Sense of unity of the real which is not analitical).<br />Thats why fantasy litterature.<br /><br />(Please please please forgite me the talkative smug and the Gross english if you can)Dada Dan Akiko https://www.blogger.com/profile/08009402191801366278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4522018539311056682.post-73668063754792529512017-04-11T00:47:39.550-07:002017-04-11T00:47:39.550-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Dada Dan Akiko https://www.blogger.com/profile/08009402191801366278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4522018539311056682.post-58124493208031847952017-04-11T00:47:37.671-07:002017-04-11T00:47:37.671-07:00Yeah, I was going to suggest that. I've got a ...Yeah, I was going to suggest that. I've got a copy if you want it, Patrick.noismshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09933436762608669966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4522018539311056682.post-63855460577169048632017-04-10T18:11:49.116-07:002017-04-10T18:11:49.116-07:00There's a book about a number of European vani...There's a book about a number of European vanished kingdoms ... https://www.amazon.com/Vanished-Kingdoms-History-Half-Forgotten-Europe-ebook/dp/B005JZD3MS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491873067&sr=8-1&keywords=forgotten+kingdoms<br /><br />it was a good read.Lukahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18210941654513813581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4522018539311056682.post-41999962095476288452017-04-10T16:16:59.100-07:002017-04-10T16:16:59.100-07:00samesameC.Richardsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11414535009749305817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4522018539311056682.post-8131762346531395152017-04-10T16:15:49.545-07:002017-04-10T16:15:49.545-07:00Wait, so were the original Forgotten Realms a patc...Wait, so were the original Forgotten Realms a patchwork of optimistic, fantasy versions of Burgundy, Indus Valley, green Sahara, and so on?<br /><br />Because if not, they should be. <br /><br />Burgundy could be a kind of sophisticated, technological Rivendell.<br /><br />I know next to nothing about others, but reading about them feels tempting.krokodylzoczamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01549511407058805266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4522018539311056682.post-20991830800040741292017-04-10T16:15:13.490-07:002017-04-10T16:15:13.490-07:00Very cool.Very cool.Parvel Shunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11797860937349949157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4522018539311056682.post-53356514080563345622017-04-10T13:55:31.197-07:002017-04-10T13:55:31.197-07:00It's a good post - but I also spent months ind...It's a good post - but I also spent months indoors playing Baldur's Gate - and I also like to peek into those occluded realms and decipher what the shadows foretell, so I guess there's a certain amount of bias involved.Hythlodaeushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02503878924819960600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4522018539311056682.post-40827131289058744542017-04-10T13:52:31.228-07:002017-04-10T13:52:31.228-07:00Sorry. Must have been a brain spasm. Apologies, ha...Sorry. Must have been a brain spasm. Apologies, have corrected.pjamesstuarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13288777018721199748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4522018539311056682.post-82130641125692384832017-04-10T12:44:45.947-07:002017-04-10T12:44:45.947-07:00Patrick: what connection are you making between F...Patrick: what connection are you making between Frank Mentzer and Ed Greenwood's FR setting??<br /><br />Allan.grodoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11800184312511280050noreply@blogger.com